Ian Anderson
By George Roldan & Thomas Connolly
When
I think of the legendary artist and frontman for Jethro Tull, I think Ian Anderson.
He is one of the most respected and well known musicians throughout the world of
rock music. He is the flute and voice behind the band Jethro Tull, and in 2002 he
has celebrated his 39th year as a recording and concert musician.
Jethro
Tull was formed in 1968 out of the amalgamation of the John Evan Band and McGregor's
Engine, two blues-based local UK groups. The group has released over 30 albums,
selling more than 60 million copies since the band first performed at London's
famous Marquee club.
Jethro Tull is also known for it's constant gigging. In 35 years the
music of Ian Anderson and Jethro Tull
has delighted audiences far and wide they have
performed more than 2500 concerts in 40 countries. Tull plays typically 100
concerts each year to longstanding, as well as new fans worldwide.
The music of
Jethro Tull can best be described as original with a sound that is so noticeable and
accessible by anyone who loves music. Their music combines the influences and styles
of Blues, Jazz, Folk, Rock, World Music and Classical elements thus creating the
recipe that has feed our appetite for great music.
Ian Anderson is famously recognized as the man who introduced the flute to rock
music, to this date, he remains at the top of his game. Ian also plays ethnic flutes
and whistles together with acoustic guitar and the mandolin family of instruments,
providing the acoustic textures which are an integral part of most of the Tull
repertoire.
Anderson has recorded
three solo albums in his career: 1983's eclectic-electric "Walk Into Light"; the
flute instrumental "Divinities" album for EMI's Classical Music Division in 1995
which reached number one in the relevant
Billboard chart, and the more recently recorded acoustic collection of songs, "The
Secret Language of Birds", released in 2000.
New solo recordings are scheduled after the live Tull classic "Living With The Past"
CD and DVD released in May 2002. In addition to Tull concert tours, further Ian
Anderson solo concerts with orchestra and other acoustic shows are planned for 2002
- 2004.
He declares a lifelong commitment to music as a profession, being far too young to
hang up his hat or his flute, although the tights and codpiece have long since been
consigned to some forgotten bottom drawer.
IAN ANDERSON
Interview by Iggy & Thomas Connolly.
P4Y: This is Prog4you.com
can I help you.
IAN: Fine. How are you, this is Ian Anderson.
P4Y: Good evening Ian, how are you?
IAN: I'm okay. Just tell me, what is Prog4U.com? haven't looked it up. Is it the
Internet? A magazine?
P4Y: An Internet website strictly. We cater to progressive rock and
we do interviews and we write reviews. And that's what we do, we love doing it
and we do
it for the music.
IAN: Wow. Okay. Right. Let's lodge into it.
P4Y: I'm George, and I am going to
introduce you to my friend, Tom.
TOM: Hi.
P4Y: How was your vacation in July, Ian?
IAN: I was away for four days with my wife, just briefly taking a break, but it was
enjoyable. But other than that, I've been working every day since I came back from
the last U.S. tour.
P4Y: So you don't have much time
off?
IAN: The other guys in Jethro Tull get quite a bit of time, I
guess, to go and relax and take a vacation here and there. But somebody has to do
all the other stuff; like doing this, for example, all the promotional stuff. It
takes a lot of hours every day.
P4Y: Where are you right now?
IAN: I'm in my office in England.
P4Y: Let's go ahead. It's been 10 years since the last Jethro Tull album and now you
have the CD and DVD, Living with the Past, and you are currently on tour to support
this new album. So you had this break in July, and
I guess, a few days off. Are you ready to go back on tour?
IAN: Yeah. I haven't done a concert for about three weeks now since I was in
Germany doing a couple of shows with an orchestra there. And three weeks is a long
time not to do a live performance. And so, you know, in an ideal world, I guess I
would rather play a few shows on a fairly regular basis rather than do three months
of touring and have three months off. That would be just the worse kind of
scenario. I am someone who likes to play pretty regularly. But I wouldn't naturally
choose to go away from home for a month at a time; it's just the economic reality of
doing concert tours. Once you take a road crew, trucks and busses and sound and
lights, all of the other people have to service them. You can't just do it for the
weekends. You need to be out there doing it on a pretty regular basis, you know.
When we're on tour, we average around six shows a week. That's the way we do it.
The economics demand it.
P4Y: How has the U.S. tour been treating
you so far?
IAN: Fine. We've been doing a lot of U.S. tours for a lot of years. It is a place
we know pretty well. Interestingly, of course, there is, with such a large country,
there is always the opportunity to play some towns and venues that we've never
played before. And I think on every tour I tell our agents the kind of, the
prerequisite of touring, is trying to find two or three places we've never played
before, just for the variety and the intriguing possibility that you go on stage and
no one knows who you are or has heard your music before. And if you play some town
in some part of the country you've never been to you have that feeling you are not
playing to an audience that is necessarily as fair and impartial or familiar with or
has such realistic expectations, having seen you a year or two before. And so it's
as close as you can get to the feeling of going and playing for people for the first
time. Obviously, I think the chances are that wherever you play some people have
seen you on television or video or something, but you get the feeling that
perhaps a lot of the people in the audience have never seen the show before.
P4Y: Certainly.
IAN: And that's always quite a healthy and good thing, to feel that challenge that
you've got to win them over.
P4Y: The set list that you play for each tour, for each show, does that kind
of change from show to show or is it based on who you are playing for?
IAN: It changes by a song or two from show to show based on perhaps just, let's
play something different tonight, something we didn't play last night. But it
always changes. I mean, if we're playing a state fair and we're competing with John
Deere tractors for people's interest, then we're going to assume that kind of
audience would not be so familiar with our music; they may be familiar with one or
two songs, but for the most part, it's going to be a tougher crowd to play to, to
keep them interested. So I've been inclined to drop one or more two more
esoteric or acoustic pieces from a state fair. Having said that, we don't play very
many state fairs, but once in a while we do those things. If there is a biker's
festival, then you would want to be probably easing off to another, again, more to
the gentler acoustic pieces than the people that hear rock music. And our kind
of rock music embraces a lot of acoustic elements anyway. And that's about as far
as we can stretch the attention of a biker crowd. So you have to be a little
sensitive to the nature of the venue by the handling of it. But I don't think we
find ourselves in the position where we have to tailor the set to the audience too
much.
P4Y: I supposed you would have to
tweak the set list.
IAN: It's
just a song or two different than what we would otherwise be playing. From tour
to tour the set list will change in a sense. This year in America the set list
between tours is going to change a great deal because it is in a way like one long
tour because you are playing different parts of the country, and geographically it's
broken up into three tours. But next year, of course, I guess there will be a lot of
changes in the set because we'll be going back into Europe and we will have to
substantially change quite a lot of the stuff. We wouldn't want to be playing the
same music as we played two years ago when we were playing around northern Europe.
So we would, I guess, change 85 percent of the set to a bunch of different songs
substantially.
P4Y: You are about halfway through your
U.S. tour, maybe three quarters of the way through your U.S. tour. What has been
your favorite venue to play in so far?
IAN: I probably have to say it would be one of the nicer theaters, either Symphony
Hall, or like the Benaroya Hall in Seattle, an example of that kind of venue, a
building designed and really well-maintained for classical music concerts. And the
reason I like those is not necessarily because the acoustics are great, because
sometimes they're not really such good acoustics for amplified music, but it's
because the toilets are usually really good. I have come to realize that the
conductors and premier soloists of the classical world insist on good, clean working
plumbing. And so I'm a grateful inheritor of that demand. On the other hand, there
is lots of lovely art deco theaters that have been renovated from the 20's and 30's.
P4Y: Nostalgic.
IAN: American theaters that are
gorgeous theaters that have had substantial money spent on renovation and it's a
great place for the audience to go. But unfortunately, in most cases, they never
seem to get around to renovating back stage, and some of them are just hideous in
terms of the dressing rooms standards and the plumbing which, frankly, you certainly
wouldn't want to spend any time in.
P4Y: I guess you would have to bring your own water then.
IAN: Basically, there is some
pretty awful places. But being a flute player I'm a little sensitive about dirt and
grime. You know, it's like -- playing an instrument that really does need to be
kept very clean and free of grease, grime, dirt, germs, I tend to be someone who
washes his hands a lot. And I really don't like people -- I mean, I have to accept
that somebody is going to carry my guitar on stage because I make an entrance
playing the flute, but I
really
don't like people touching my instruments. In most cases I put them in the cases and
I take them out. I change the strings on my guitar. I clean my flute. I really
wouldn't want any road crew or assistants or anybody touching my stuff; it's far too
personal. And you want to make sure things are in good
working order, and keeping them clean is a very
important part of that. Whilst I'm not as quite as obsessional as maybe I'm making
it sound, I do like during the important parts of my day to have soap, water and a
towel at hand. And even if I'm having to change in some in a cubicle or some, you
know, cabin or whatever they stick out of the back of the stage, outdoor venues
sometimes, you know, I always have to have a bowl of water and towel and some soap.
At least I know I can wash my hands and know everything is clean before I go on
stage. Because I have had so many embarrassing moments with flutes that jam up on
me because they have gotten some dirty, greasy stuff on them and it jammed up the
mechanism.
P4Y: We wouldn't want that to
happen on stage while you are playing.
IAN: No. It used to happen a great
deal when I was not careful with my instruments. About 10 to 15 years ago, I
started, you know. I was getting very disappointed with the number of times that I
had equipment failures of that sort, and so I started just a different regime of
treating my instruments in the same way a classical musician would, making sure it's
always clean when I put it away, and dried. And I do that. But it applies to
technical stuff as well, like
lights.
It's like, you know, before you go on the tour you really want to make sure that you
are using equipment, all of which has been tested. And all that stuff takes a bit of
a toll during a tour. And even things like guitar leads, they take a bit of
punishment; people walking on them and stepping on them with sharp heels. And even
brand new ones out of the box, you always want to make sure you check them out
pretty carefully because a dry solder joint could let you down. So all of these
things are part of the rigorous testing and checking of equipment because technical
problems do manifest themselves; not on every show but, you know, a few times a
week. Hopefully, the audience isn't aware of it. But you want to try and minimize
all of that stuff. There is nothing more embarrassing then having a breakdown on
stage that causes you to have to temporarily stop the show. And that's happened to
me a few times in my life, and it's always an embarrassment.
P4Y: Ian, so is that almost like a ritual for you before the shows, to go
through your instruments? I mean, is that something that you do before the show?
IAN: It's like warming up before the show. I mean, people do different things.
There are a couple of guys in the band who don't even touch their instruments
until they walk on stage. On the other hand, there are
others of us who religiously warm up and play our instruments and run through a
few things before we go on stage because we want to be fluid and conversant with
things. And just, there is a lot of muscles and physicalness in place for all of
the instruments. The drummer, for example, and me, we both have quite a rigorous
warm-up period. But our keyboard player, for example, I think he comes back at the
end of the tour and I don't think he plays his instrument again until he walks on
stage to start the next tour. He's someone who hates practicing. Sometimes I think
he can't actually really enjoy the instrument because he never plays it, but it's
something that he just doesn't seem to do. If I was a keyboard player, I would insist
on having some sort of small, portable keyboard in my dressing room so I could warm
up before the show, you know. But he doesn't like to do that. And I think it
appears that he doesn't need to do it. He has a dislike of doing it; almost as if
he wants the moment where he walks on stage and plays the first note the first time
to be that bit more special for him perhaps. I'm not really sure why, but I suspect
it's just that he really, he assiduously does not want to play his instrument except
during the concert and begrudgingly during the sound check, although I know for sure
that if he could get away without doing sound checks he wouldn't do those either.
But we wouldn't let him get away with that.
P4Y: I would like to chat a little
about the DVD and CD. We both have the CD and DVD and it's an outstanding piece of
work. It was a really nice surprise to see the original band play together, and you
actually play three songs with them. What was it like getting together with the
original Jethro Tull members on the DVD and CD and working with these guys again?
IAN: I'm sure we all thought it was a little strange because we all hadn't been on
the same stage together for 34 years. And I don't think any of us doubted that we
would be able to get up, you know, and make some music together but the actual, the
sort of personality, the more soulful side, the more intuitive, mutual expression
that comes through playing with other musicians, that's something that you can't
really second-guess as to whether it's going to work or not. And when we got
together it was in front of a small invited audience in a club where we were filming
that morning, and we nervously ran through the music and we did a run-through. And
we said, that's it. This is it. Let's roll the cameras because we might as well
because we don't want to rehearse this too many times and go off the boil. We try
and capture it while it's still fresh, you know.
P4Y: Was it your idea?
IAN: Yes, it was. I played with
Glenn Cornick the bass player -- sorry. I have not played with Glenn Cornick I go,
the bass player. He's the one that I haven't played with since I left the band.
Mick Abrahams and Clive Bunker, I played with occasionally here and there, or they
got up and played with us or I played on one of their albums or something.
P4Y: It looked like you had a lot of fun.
IAN: With Glenn it was a little
different because he didn't -- he had a little technical problem at the last minute
where the bass that he had, the one that he kept in the U.K. because he lives in Los
Angeles, didn't work. And so we rehearsed and recorded with a backup bass that he
had with him. I don't think it was his a fretless bass, but by the time we actually
found another bass from a music store in a nearby town, we actually already kind of
got the thing on tape. It was a little tricky. It wasn't as easy for him as it
should have been because he wasn't playing a familiar instrument. But for the rest
of us it was okay and interesting, if for no other reason than it stressed the
limitations of the original band, that we didn't really have a lot of stuff that we
could play together. Back in those days when we began, we used to play typically two
half-hour sets at some little club and probably 50 percent of the time was taken up
with a drum solo or guitar solo. So we didn't really have very many songs that we
played in an early Jethro Tull performance. And so when it came to thinking what are
we going to play, really there wasn't an awful lot to choose from really,
typically, perhaps six or seven songs we could have played I suppose. We never
really had a lot of material. So the idea of why weren't there any repeat efforts
for reuniting the original band, well, they would be a little short of material,
to say the least. And I have very, very great reservations about trying to procure
other music within the blues idioms to play. And that would be a prerequisite
because that's what Mick Abrahams does. He's a blues guitar player. He doesn't
readily slot into any other kind of musical styles, at least one that I would want
to play anyway. I think he might play country and western, but God forbid, he'd
better not do that in front of me.
P4Y: We don't want that. You've been rocking the '70's, rocking the world
of the '80's and '90's, and I guess we can say the 2000's now. What the heck is
in those chili peppers?
IAN: Capsaicin is the vital ingredient in the chili pepper. It produces the hot.
And it's a chemical which is extracted for the use in so-called pepper sprays, used
by law enforcement officers and private individuals in America, where at least in
some states I believe it's legal to possess. But yeah, it's pretty lethal stuff.
And it causes great excitation for the receptors.
P4Y: So that's your secret?
IAN: And as a result it produces, causes an endorphin rush to calm and modify the
pain. And the production of endorphins is something that produces a feeling of
well-being. And it's sort of an exhilaration, it's kind of a legal high. It's the
body's own mechanism for producing a mood of great -- sort of a mood of great
exhilaration.
P4Y: Euphoria?
IAN: It's not a chemical that you
want to fool around with because it's actually something that hurts. It's used in
the context of spicy food. It's the reason that many people enjoy spicy food,
whether it's Mexican food or Indian food or Thai food. It's actually because of one
simple probably not so simple. It's probably quite a complex chemical. But it's
called capsaicin, and it is literally that. Just like sodium chloride is a chemical
that we call common salt, capsaicin is a more complex chemical which produces
pain. But there is no sense in eating hot chili peppers for the point in eating hot
chili peppers, just for the sense of being macho and demonstrating how hot is hot.
It's something that you put into food because it gives it a certain bite, a certain
zest.
P4Y: And how are the chili peppers coming along on your farms?
IAN: Surprisingly, they are
actually doing quite well. I brought a chili pepper into the house a couple of
nights ago, and I picked up the telephone to call somebody. I absent-mindedly bit
the end of the chili pepper and was chewing it, thinking that it was probably fairly
mild. I didn't except it to be really, really hot, but it was. It was in fact
incredibly hot for a simple little cayenne that I grew in the greenhouse in the U.K.
So sometimes they can surprise you, even when you think you know them well. But
even the same species, same chili pepper variety will be, from the same seed packet,
will produce a number of plants, and the chili's that grow on the plant will not
necessarily be all the same. Some plants will produce hotter chilis, and individual
chilis on a chili plant will be hotter than others. It's just not too exact a
science when it comes to growing chilis. So, you never really know quite what you
are going to get. Sometimes you get more than you bargain for.
P4Y: They don't agree with me too much.
IAN: Perhaps it's an acquired taste that you work at, that you quietly work at,
while there is nobody around.
P4Y: I think you're right. Getting back to the CD and DVD --
IAN: Yeah. This will be probably have to be the last topic because I've got to get
on with the next interview.
P4Y: Okay. Can we ask
about the solo tour?
IAN: Sure.
P4Y: We know that it's starting in the fall.
October 8th?
IAN: It's a few days that I'm doing that, kind of an intimate little
improvisational, just something a bit different that brings an audience into rather
more immediate contact. And it will be co-presented by some radio folks and
will involve radio folks and some guests, and will involve a few musicians that I'm
bringing with me; some from the UK, acoustic musicians that have a folk background.
So there is an opportunity to play some acoustic pieces, Jethro Tull songs, solo
pieces, whatever, just rearranged, but just in an intimate context. So it's just a
little experiment really to see how that works out; rather like doing some concerts
with orchestras, which I have done a couple of a few weeks ago and I have a couple
coming up, which is an experiment of taking some of my music and putting it into a
different context, less electric more acoustic.
P4Y: It's going to be quite special.
IAN: I guess that's natural because I am the acoustic musician in Jehtro Tull.
That's what I am and what I've always done; that's what I've always been. And most
of the instruments that I play, and those that I'm known for, are archetypal acoustic
instruments. Obviously the flute is, being an orchestral instrument, the concert
flute.
P4Y: Congratulations on your efforts on the Andes Mountain Cat with the
Wildlife Conservation Network. And we understand that you raised $15,000 and it's a
credit to you and to all of your Jethro Tull fans. They also made generous
donations to the cause in the past.
IAN: Yes. I mean credit to the people who are prepared to support it. In reality
what they are supporting is some scientific research. It's sponsoring folks to be
able to actually carry out some research, usually in the field, to fill in some of
the gaping holes in our knowledge of certain wild species. Unfortunately, the world
of private sponsorship and support of the public is necessary. There isn't really
the kind of national or global funding for those things. That does involve people
having to raise money. But what I do is very little compared to the many people that
do huge amounts of work and spend their lives effectively involved in conservation
issues. I just do a little bit from time to time. But I guess it's easy for me to
do because of some contact potentially with people who are prepared to put their
hands in their pockets and put their money on the table to help out. So I'm just a
catalyst.
P4Y: It's good to see that you are giving something back.
IAN: Anyway, with Sting looking after the rain forests and Elton John taking care
of everyone with AIDS, the least I can do is look after the furry little guys.
P4Y: Is there a message that you would like to convey to your fans?
IAN: Well, be patient with us. Because I guess you know coming to any concert is
not -- we don't deliver the meat and potatoes necessarily before we serve the
starter or the hors d'oeuvre. I think when we do concerts it's always trying to
give people a balanced meal. We try and put in a lot of changes of pace and changes
of mood, changes of dynamics into the concerts. And some people, I guess they are a
little overexcited and think of rock 'n roll as more like a sports event. But for
those people I would say, be patient. Just learn to be a good listener, and just
let us do the work of moving you through different levels of music intensity.
Patience is a great virtue for any audience. Listening to varied music, if you
expect the pay-off, if you expect the orgasm in the first three minutes, then you
could
be at the wrong show. Better
go and look for the lap dancing.
P4Y: Well, we want to thank you.
IAN: I'm very happy to entertain most people most of the time but there is a point
where I draw the line. Must get with on the next folks here. Good to talk to you.
P4Y: We want to thank you very much for taking time and talking to us.
IAN: As soon as I have some time I shall look you up.
P4Y: Enjoy yourself. I think you'll love the reading.
IAN: Thank you.
P4Y: Thank you. Have a great day.
P4Y: It was an extreme pleasure to interview an eloquent and distinguished gentleman
as Ian Anderson.
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